Comments on: A dumb redneck needs help reading graph? http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm Sun, 20 May 2012 16:04:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: jim z http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6253 jim z Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000 http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm#comment-6253 I remember I posted this graph once and the leading alarmists on YA simply attacked FSU and mentioning some famous skeptic (Spencer?) who attended there. They really have no answer. The fact of the matter is they were lying or completely ignorant about blaming hurricanes on humans but that is what you get from that group I remember I posted this graph once and the leading alarmists on YA simply attacked FSU and mentioning some famous skeptic (Spencer?) who attended there. They really have no answer. The fact of the matter is they were lying or completely ignorant about blaming hurricanes on humans but that is what you get from that group

]]> By: Starbuck http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6254 Starbuck Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000 http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm#comment-6254 Remember, the alarmists changed their position to state that there will not be more storms, but the intensity of each storm will be greater. Again, they developed a thesis and then went out to gather the appropriate data to support their thesis. The data is not cooperating so expect a new set of thesis's to emerge in the near future concerning this issue. Thats why I don't argue science on this site because the proponents are making it up as they read different blogs and really do not understand the big picture. I argue the political spectrum only as that is the only way to educate people that this is just another environmental hoax put on by the same players as the last one. Remember, the alarmists changed their position to state that there will not be more storms, but the intensity of each storm will be greater. Again, they developed a thesis and then went out to gather the appropriate data to support their thesis. The data is not cooperating so expect a new set of thesis’s to emerge in the near future concerning this issue.

Thats why I don’t argue science on this site because the proponents are making it up as they read different blogs and really do not understand the big picture. I argue the political spectrum only as that is the only way to educate people that this is just another environmental hoax put on by the same players as the last one.

]]> By: James E http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6255 James E Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000 http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm#comment-6255 Illustrates just how fast things can change when you go from an extended solar maximum as we have been in for almost 200 years to a sudden and deep solar minimum. You need a large thermal variation to generate severe weather systems like a hurricane and when you suddenly eliminate the high side of the system with a suddenly cold sun the storm systems become less active. But those of the political extremes will find someway to convince the uninformed that the world is still overheating while people are freezing to death because they believed the leftist power mongers and did not insulate their houses. I just in time finished installing insulation on the 4th side of my house and so the cold winters and cool summers of the next 20 or so years will not be so expensive as they will for the liberals around who are mentally unable to comprehend these things. I will probably cut my gas usage this winter by more than half just for installing less than $100 of insulation. http://www.deadfishwrapper.com/fish_wrapper_wont_publish_global_cooling_study http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTlhOTNiOWFlMmMzNmJkOWM3ZTk5NWJkNTU2Nzk5NWI= http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/nasa-study-shows-sun-responsible-for-planet-warming/ The real problem is that those who promote the AGW agenda know very little about science and how things really work. The sun is the source of 98% of the energy that warms the earth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness Illustrates just how fast things can change when you go from an extended solar maximum as we have been in for almost 200 years to a sudden and deep solar minimum. You need a large thermal variation to generate severe weather systems like a hurricane and when you suddenly eliminate the high side of the system with a suddenly cold sun the storm systems become less active. But those of the political extremes will find someway to convince the uninformed that the world is still overheating while people are freezing to death because they believed the leftist power mongers and did not insulate their houses.

I just in time finished installing insulation on the 4th side of my house and so the cold winters and cool summers of the next 20 or so years will not be so expensive as they will for the liberals around who are mentally unable to comprehend these things. I will probably cut my gas usage this winter by more than half just for installing less than $100 of insulation.

http://www.deadfishwrapper.com/fish_wrapper_wont_publish_global_cooling_study
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTlhOTNiOWFlMmMzNmJkOWM3ZTk5NWJkNTU2Nzk5NWI=
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/nasa-study-shows-sun-responsible-for-planet-warming/

The real problem is that those who promote the AGW agenda know very little about science and how things really work. The sun is the source of 98% of the energy that warms the earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness

]]> By: liberal_60 http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6256 liberal_60 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000 http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm#comment-6256 Perhaps it would help if you read the article instead of just the headlines and the graph. Note this quote from it: "This is a natural consequence of the rather unusual flip from strong La Nina to El Nino conditions during the past calendar year, which did not happen at all during the period of 1976-2006 as indicated by the MEI-ENSO INDEX" Perhaps it would help if you read the article instead of just the headlines and the graph. Note this quote from it:
"This is a natural consequence of the rather unusual flip from strong La Nina to El Nino conditions during the past calendar year, which did not happen at all during the period of 1976-2006 as indicated by the MEI-ENSO INDEX"

]]> By: Dawei http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm/comment-page-1#comment-6257 Dawei Sun, 08 Nov 2009 07:08:44 +0000 http://hurricanequestions.com/a-dumb-redneck-needs-help-reading-graph.htm#comment-6257 If you were to do a linear regression on that data, you would find a positive slope. There are a dozen different things that affect cyclone energy in addition to just sea surface temperature, that's why you don't get a perfect increase year after year. And anyway it's still not certain what the effect on hurricanes will be from the warming. This is because the strength of a hurricane depends not only on sea surface temperature but also a cooler upper troposphere. http://wind.mit.edu/~emanuel/holem/vm.gif If you were to do a linear regression on that data, you would find a positive slope. There are a dozen different things that affect cyclone energy in addition to just sea surface temperature, that’s why you don’t get a perfect increase year after year.

And anyway it’s still not certain what the effect on hurricanes will be from the warming. This is because the strength of a hurricane depends not only on sea surface temperature but also a cooler upper troposphere.
http://wind.mit.edu/~emanuel/holem/vm.gif

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